he lies about remembering Steve, and its clear why. the blink thats almost a twitch. that hard swallow. the way he looks up after he says it, like he’s both terrified he wont believe him, and bracing himself .
in WS, he asked outright who he was, and admitted to remembered. because he had no idea what happened when he did. which is altogether just one more horrific thing Hydra did, they took the memories of them hurting him when he asked, he couldnt learn to lie to protect himself; he didnt know he needed to be protected.
but here he is, remembering things…like what had to be dozens of times he remembered something, Steve probably most of all, and finally saw the full scope of what was done to him. what happened when he said he remembered Steve.
that there, i dont think he was lying to Steve, i think he was asked a question where the honest answer got him tortured. now he’s gotten the chance to learn how to protect himself. i think this was just so terrified being asked that, he answered instinctively.
itd be the case fo ra lot of things. like say, the truth=torture. the Hydra base=torture.and captivity. i would think being threatened with pain or death, in that place, would be just as terrifying for him
and wouldnt ya know, theres the hard swallow, the twitch-blink. the only major difference is in the second one, when he blinks, his whole body shudders..as id imagine it would being threatened in that place.
on an unrelated note, i always found it interesting that, while terrified of being hurt, especially there, and being threatened…he lowers the gun
His journal/notebook ( contains advanced equations -not known in which contest they’re mentioned/why Howard wrote about them ; notes about the Tesseract, which is called the HYPERCUBE -or n-cube– by Howard )
Newspapers about Vanko
Videos ( behind the scenes of the Stark Expo recordings ; message to Tony ; possibly others? )
Files ( with what looks like a dossier -last screencap )
A map of the Arctic ( quite probably from Howard’s search of Steven Rogers after he crashed with the plane )
Blueprints ( ARC REACTOR – TFTR-1 ; BUILDING 290 UU-IOP44 ; Projects Designers: ANTON VANKO )
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Notice how Bucky’s name is on the cover and that this is the original comic younger teen Barnes. Therefore, this is visual evidence that within the MCU, Bucky has this distorted highly fictionalized version just as Peggy Carter was vexed by the damsel in distress caricature of the Captain America Adventure Program radio show heard in Agent Carter season 1. Maybe as a child, Tony identified with this kid Bucky? More fuel for the rage in CACW.
As the cover is the first issue, then perhaps the comic made it overseas even before Bucky became a POW, and definitely afterwards.
So, it’s at three in the morning that, after seeing a gif, I begin having revelations/disturbing thoughts/deep contemplations about the bionics and biology of the Winter Soldier’s arm. And, of course, at three in the morning, that’s when I start assembling pictures and diagrams.
Here’s a normal shoulder, and then the Winter Soldier’s. What gets me is that it’s not just a plug-in prosthesis that joins neatly up with his shoulder joint and the bone structures there.
As seen here, all of these muscles:
are what you need to actually move an arm and shoulder. With structures even as far down and centralized as the pecs, the muscles there bunch up in the shoulder region. As seen on the Winter Soldier, all of the places where his upper chest/pectoral, and shoulder muscles should be bunched up are (whether partially grafted with or entirely) metal.
Here, (on my phone) I drew out how more natural muscle patterns would be going without the interruption of the prosthetic. And here’s what looks to be going on:
At the seam of the prosthetic, we can see a glimpse of material that seems to extend down, following the basic lines of where musculature would need to be to support movement- which leads me to believe that at least in the front, that metal had to be extended (or at least extended by way of more flexible wiring to at least graft and connect to existing muscles and nerves) down through his entire pectoral muscles. Sure, his entire pec might not have to have been recreated/replaced by metal and wiring, but I’m getting the feeling that the lighter colored metallic structure at the seam continues farther down into his chest in order to connect to existing muscles and nerves. Depending on how far down they had to take things, they may or may not have had to anchor the pec and under arm metal structures to his ribcage.
Now, onto the back.
The scapula and other skeletal structures in the shoulder area are all pretty necessary for movement, and although Bucky only seemed to lose below the upper bicep after the fall, the scapula alone couldn’t support the weight and power of his new arm. So, I’m guessing that they left both the scapula and collarbone, but would have needed to reinforce both bone structures with metal (this includes shoulder joint and socket, if they were still intact enough); and all of that, they’d need to anchor to his spine/rib cage to keep the weight balanced and make sure the muscles and cartilage didn’t rip and tear with the weight of the arm during standing and fighting and such.
As for what they’d do about the muscles needed for arm movement in the back, I don’t have a clue- for weight and efficiency’s sake, they probably would have done their best to preserve and connect existing nerves and musculature on his back to the arm, after reinforcing bone structures. Given that the muscles in the back and shoulder connect to the spine and neck, that would be a whole lot of metal to try and anchor down if they replaced everything back there with straight up metal (as opposed to connecting wiring and such to the muscles already there).
So, whether or not this taught anyone new, I feel it’s certainly an interesting line of thinking, to consider just how far and how deep the socket, reinforcement, and overall prosthetic goes into the musculoskeletal structures of his chest, torso, and back. As for the wiring required to get the level of responsiveness and finesse that his arm has, I can’t begin to imagine how they had to integrate their technology into his nervous system- that might be a post for another day, and possibly by someone who has more than a basic understanding of anatomy (that’s what degrees are for!). Are there any more lessons to this? Well, I’m a biology geek and a Marvel geek, for one, and once more, we can reinforce that Hydra is fucking terrifying and horrible organization- albeit, one with surgeons that had remarkably, ridiculously, spectacularly advanced technology and understandings of bionics even in the 40s.
Ooh, nice, this is super well-researched and full of troubling implications. I love fics and stuff that really get into the possible functionality (or lack thereof) in the metal arm.
I’m of the very firm opinion that there has to be some kind of mesh stretching over his pectorals to anchor the arm to his sternum. I did a lot of thinking about the weight of the arm here and how Bucky’s posture and stride compensate for the weight here; from both the math and SebStan’s excellent physical acting, it’s clear that the arm weighs a fuckton. Far too much to be held in place by the shoulder or pectoral girdle: the collarbone is a delicate beast (I say that having broken both of mine in my life) and not something that you want to rely on to hold up anything. Same with the ribs. The scapula, meanwhile, is literally not attached to any other part of the skeleton. Nothing locks it into place, not like the shoulder or hip ball-and-socket joints; it just kind of floats over the ribs, kept there by the many, many back and shoulder muscles.
So my guess: metal reinforcement of the collarbone, ribs, scapula, and probably the upper vertebrae (at least C7, the knobby guy at the base of your neck), along with sub-dermal meshing that attaches to his sternum and between his scapula and spine to keep his pectorals, trapezius, and rhomboids from tearing every time he throws a punch.
This just makes me sick to my stomach and I just want to reach through the screen and save Bucky from this agony. The way he is staring at his own reflection. The confusion in his eyes. At this point, they already wiped the memories of who he was, so he doesn’t really recognize the image in front of him, and yet he reaches out and tries and touch it before his body freezes. I mentioned before how the only time Bucky might actually really have a look at his reflection are the moments before they turn him to ice. Because during these past 70 years, Bucky hasn’t been living. He has been kept frozen. When they needed him for a mission they thawed him out and then once he was done they would freeze up again. They don’t really explain it in the movie, but the reason behind this was because he was getting restless and too unstable. His memories were trying to come to the surface and like a confused and frightened child, he became violent and hysteric. So they solved this problem by keeping his this way. How people still call him a villain after learning that is beyond me.
#//which would mean he wakes up in the same position#still terrified#because his brain was preserved in that moment#it would have suffered considerable damage#his cells and nerves traumatised by the utter shock of thermal change#he probably endured seizures#some form of TBI#and respiratory issues when he fist wakes up#to say the least#he would be nothing more than docile because he would be physically unable to fight them off#while they injected him with some kind of stabiliser#and ran their tests to ensure he was functional#and this happened for 70+ years.#his brain still more malleable than a child’s#at this point more like a 6 month old baby#unable to recognise things around him#if only because of muscle memory.#which is still shoddy to say the least#if it were not for muscle memory#he would be unable to speak#but it’s a repetition#a routine#and he’s a soldier#so some part of him is still in his element.#whilst his captors take advantage of that#and purposefully inflict on him and manipulate him into stockholm syndrome.#because they need to ensure he won’t use the voice he still has#to turn against them.
And just when I thought this couldn’t get more heartbreaking. He probably wonders if he is even alive anymore because he is nothing more than a reanimated body who get’s thrown into a freezer once it has served it’s purpose. After so many years of this, he has grown to believe that this is normal for him. Because his work has been a gift to mankind. Because he has shaped the century. So this is just what needs to be done to him in order for that to happen. Because he is a means to an end. That this is what his life is all about and that he has no real choice in the matter. Wake up, get prepped, get wiped, find target, finish the mission, go back in the freezer, repeat. Sebastian was right to say that Bucky suffers from Post Traumatic Stress, or what they used to refer to as battle fatigue. His mental state is debilitated. Muscle memory is so important. Is all he really has. He knows how to walk, how to talk, how to fight. He knows this because his body remembers how to do these things. But he probably doesn’t know anything beyond that. How to really take care of himself. When you see him at the Smithsonian you just want to take him home with you and show him how to shave, and shower and be a person again. On the surface, he looks like such a threatening and dominant individual. Strip back the layers bit by bit and you have nothing but a fragile and confused man who doesn’t really know his own worth.
Jesus Christ. My heart has already been trampled enough. Thanks for finishing it off.
you know. sometimes i think. in the face of tony’s obvious trauma and ptsd. in the face of the more obvious pain that bucky has suffered. we forget that steve’s motivation in the film isn’t just his tendency to hold stubbornly fast to his ideals, to do what he feels is right and damn the rest.
steve’s hurting too.
like. guys. we are so ready to give weight to tony’s emotional boiling over point at the end of the film, to say “this is why he tried to kill bucky, and it’s not right but it’s understandable.” we are so ready to acknowledge the fact that bucky was a victim and motivated to run by his fear of further persecution and hurt from nefarious forces. what about steve, though? when do we acknowledge that steve’s not just acting with righteous arrogance, but a deep anger, isolation, fear, loneliness, sadness, and hope?
steve died. like, his last memory before waking up seventy years in the future is a few days after watching his best friend fall from a train and he was unable to stop it he willingly flies a plane into the fucking Arctic, ostensibly to his death.
guys. guys. tony was fucked up for years because of untreated ptsd after falling from space and thinking he was dead. why is it so hard to remember that steve probably is fucked up, too?
this dude, he wakes up seventy years in the future and he has to make his way without really anyone or anything familiar, and the only person who is familiar is suffering from memory loss, and he’s now operating under the thumb of shadowy organization that he’s not 100 percent does good things and that continuously lies to him. there’s no war to fight, but that’s all this body is good for. it’s all he knows.
he doesn’t know what makes him happy. guys.
and so he goes through another trauma when he discovers this villain who is trying to kill him is in fact the dead best friend who—surprise!—was actually captured after falling and losing an arm and his brains were scrambled to turn him into a murder assassin. we know for a fact steve feels tremendous guilt over this. but imagine beyond guilt, the sorrow, the nightmarish possibilities, that are turning over in steve’s head. the idea of what his friend suffered. remember when rhodey fell from the sky and tony blasted sam in the chest? imagine the anger in steve’s heart at the idea of what bucky’s suffered and the unwillingness to let that go unchecked and unsaved.
oh, plus. that shadowy organization he’s been fighting for? the people he’s been taking orders from? the top dog in the neat little hierarchy that’s arranged his world? yeah. hydra. everything steve has known turns upside down. he can’t trust anything. imagine the paranoia. the suspicion. imagine the fear that must take seed at that betrayal.
and then! of course, then he begins fighting these battles with the avengers where the collateral damage is on such a bigger scale than it was at war. where there are aliens. aliens, you guys. and he’s tasked with leading this motley crew of superheroes in a world he’s still getting used to and people die, lots of people die, and we know that even if it doesnt visibly affect him like it affects tony (who always seems shocked when he’s confronted with loss, because it’s presented to him on a personal, individual level) it does affect him. that steve feels the guilt of lives lost. imagine that burden. imagine the weight of the shield, the mask, the responsibility. imagine the loneliness. the fear.
so then. then. in the space of a few days. steve deals with more guilt from the deaths in lagos. he shoulders that burden. then he deals with the moral quandary of signing the accords. he wrestles with that decision. peggy dies. he grieves, oh goodness does he grieve. vienna fuckin blows up and that elusive best friend is now the suspect. so steve is grieving, he is confused and conflicted, and now he feels doubly guilty—that’s the person he has been looking for, should he have already caught him? did he do it? he couldn’t have. does he bring him in? does he shoulder this responsibility too? what will they make him do when he catches up to bucky? what should he do? steve might act like he always knows what’s right, but a decision like this isn’t easy. it messes with a person. and when you’re dealing with all that mess in your head, sometimes you don’t think. sometimes…you act.
like when bucky is triggered, when steve stops a helicopter with his bare fucking hands, you can feel the desperation. that’s not ordinary heroics. that’s not steve just trying to stop bucky from escaping and possibly hurting others. it’s steve fighting for bucky. for this piece of his past. for the possibility of an end to loneliness. for the possibility of redemption for letting him fall.
and when they go on the run, when they know they have to stop the supersoldiers, when they clash with tony’s team, can you imagine steve’s sheer frustration that no one gets what is at stake? that no one is willing to listen? and yes, he didn’t even try—but why is that, you think? is it possibly because steve is used to institutions and those in power ignoring what he thinks is right and causing disaster anyway?
when steve says, “pal, so are we.” when steve acknowledges to natasha that he’s 90 not dead, when he openly references the fact that he and bucky are 100, can you imagine knowing that? adjusting to that? being 20-something in body and memory but 100 in actuality? living in a body that people perceive as a weapon so strongly that you’ve become a weapon when you are still longing to rediscover the man you were? steve’s not just cap. steve’s steve, and he doesn’t know what makes him happy you guys. he’s a guy, he’s a human, and he’s dealing with A Lot.
i get that he makes some bad calls in the movie. so does tony. my beef is that while tony’s decisions are often supported by his very obvious trauma and emotional burden, we rarely seem to give enough weight to the very real and very similar turmoil that is going on inside of steve.
when tony is fighting him in siberia. when steve says, “he’s my friend,” so simply, so sadly, without any righteousness, just clean tired truth, that’s steve as steve. when he hid the truth from tony, that’s steve as steve. when he drops the shield, that’s steve reclaiming himself as steve. we expect cap all the time, because often, steve is cap. it’s easy to see him as the moral police that way, if reductionist.
but we forget to see steve as steve. that he is a kid, in some ways. and a grieving, lost, lonely kid with a lot of anger, sadness, confusion, and power boiling under the placid-seeming surface.
Steve Rogers in CA:CW + the values of Captain America
I saw a gifset about how Tony might be a better embodiment of Cap’s values in CA:CW than Steve is. I wanted to show how, at least for me, Steve still represents those values.
Okay, I’m getting a bit obsessed with this now. Tumblr user secretlytodream has given me the actual Russian version of the Winter Soldier’s handler’s ten reprogramming words! This is so interesting compared to what we are given as subtitles in the English version of the CACW movie:
1. Longing: желание – wish/will (depending on the context really)
2. Rusted: живой – alive
3. Seventeen: семнадцать – seventeen
4. Daybreak: рассвет – dawn
5. Furnace: печь – oven
6. Nine: девять – nine
7. Benign: добросердечный – good-hearted
8. Homecoming: возвращение на родину – homecoming
9. One: один – one
10. Freightcar: грузовой вагон – freight car.
Thanks secretlytodream! You’re the best.
Ok, first of all, I have no idea why they can’t hire Russian people to do these things for them, because there are always – always – mistakes or whatever. There’s a bit of confusion on the “rusted” part. I was sure I heard the word “живой”, like, the word stress and everything. But after I found out that the English subtitles were actually the word “rusted” which is “ржАвый” with the stress on the “a”, I got confused. Because the dude in the movie clearly pronounces it with the stress on the last syllable and it’s a no way to pronounce the word “rusted” in Russian.
And “benign” is a synonym of “good-hearted”, “kind-hearted”. The last two are more of a literal translation I suppose. In case there are more language geeks out there 😀
If these words weren’t in the comics, now I’m curious how they were chosen. I mean, some words are pretty obvious, but some are really open to any interpretation.
struggled to pronounce
“ржАвый”, it was more of a “ржавОй“ in his delivery, but when Karpov (Gene Farber) says it in the 1991 scene, it’s clearly
“ржАвый”,
“rusted“. I can’t fathom why they didn’t go for “kind-hearted“ for “добросердечный“, it’s the closest lexical equivalence and most contextually appropriate. As for “возвращение на родину“, I find the nuance interesting here, since it’s “return to the homeland“, literally, in the source language (Russian) but “return home“ in the target language (English subtitles translation, “homecoming“), which brings out two different conceptual references: actual codeword
“возвращение на родину“
appealing to something ideologically patriotic in the subject’s mind, while the translated codeword “homecoming“ referencing something more personal and intimate, a home – with the associations ‘home is where the heart is‘, ‘home is not a place but a person/people‘ (some Steve-related subliminal message).
Sebastian Stan’s Russian is interestiing – while he seems to understand what he’s saying, his accent is very noticeable and his pronunciation seems influenced by Romanian, not American English. If this is what the legendary Winter Soldier sounded like all the time, with an identifiable regional accent, he was likely referred to by Department X or Soviet-based Hydra branch or whoever supposedly handled him in MCU as “our Moldavian supersoldier“. 🙂
“Товарищ командир, силы противника прорываются сквозь линию окопов и идут к нашей базе. Прикажите доставать из холодильника чудо-молдованина?“ (Comrade Commander, the enemy forces are breaching the trench line and moving towards our base. Orders to take the Moldavian miracle man out of the fridge, sir?) /headcanon
Reblogging because instant Moldavian Winter Soldier headcanon.
is 100% right. I wonder why, is that Belarusian accent?
Interestingly, Zemo (Daniel Brühl) pronounces рассвет (dawn) as развед, as if he were about to say разведка (scouting, intelligence gathering) and stopped one syllable short.
But what really caught my attention upon second viewing was that when Karpov activates the psy-ops coding, he says добросердечный (kind-hearted, like a person can be good-natured) while Zemo says доброкачественный (benign, like a tumor can be benign): these are two absolutely different words! Either this is horrible continuity or it’s supposed to make sense in the movie: Zemo pronounced the word wrong, so the conditioning was faulty and Bucky came back to his senses when he was fished out of the water.
Sebastian Stan’s distinct Romanian/Moldavian accent when he responds “Я готов отвечать“ is the most breath-takingly adorable thing, though. Супермолдованин Баки – the most reliable operative of the Winter Soldier corps.
Oh man, thanks for clearing that up! I was pulling my hair trying to figure it out, because both words – “alive” and “rusted” could have very different meanings in the whole “reprogramming” situation. Daniel Brul literally speaks 3 languages (4 technically), I wonder why he didn’t put more work in the pronunciation of a couple of words. But it seems that the official version is “rusted” – the same word was used in the Spanish subtitles, too. As for Sebastian, bless his soul and heart, at least this time his Russian is somewhat understandable, comparing to “Она моя” from The Winter Soldier 😛
And yes,
while Zemo says доброкачественный (benign, like a tumor can be benign): these are two absolutely different words!
this got me, like, wtf?..
Another thing that I think was amazingly creepy was that the first time Karpov says “Доброе утро, солдат” – Good morning, soldier, like it’s a good thing or something, like he’s trying to be kind. And yeah, gimme more Супермолдаванин Баки! 😀 *remembers those damn plums and goes cry in the corner some more*
Well (a russian here) I didn’t expect any better from them to be honest. I still remember Winter Soldier saying “Ona u menya” in WS which doesn’t make any sense at all (it seems that they simply used Google translate for that).
“Ready to comply” is translated wrong into russian too; what they are saying in Russian means “Ready to answer”, which is kinda close but still has a different meaning.
And don’t give me started on the signs or anything else in written Russian! Like the sign on the snowmobile in Siberia “через снегу орендовать” -that is just 3 words stuck together! FFS! I mean, why is it so bloody hard to correctly translate shit? God, they don’t even have to pay the translators, all they have to do is ask russian-speaking tumbler-ites to help!
In a generous mood, I’d go for an interpretation of Bucky the Winter Soldier actually having studied Russian, but speaking it poorly and with interference from English and from other languages he had to learn for mission purposes (Civil War establishes he has at least listening comprehension of German and speaking/listening skills in Romanian). Hence the infamous Она у меня, найди его.
And Я готов отвечать.
(If that’s the standard response Bucky gives, imagine Karpov just muttering through his teeth every time, Да кто тебя спрашивает. He unsuccessfully tries to teach him some other response, at least Slushayus’, tovarishch komandir. The Soldier doesn’t show he understands the orders, either. Karpov would have liked a “Yest’!“ or “Tak tochno!“, but no, with Bucky Bear, it’s all meaningful blinking.)
(But those before Karpov, before they taught Bucky at least passable Russian, must have encountered more difficulties. End of the year review would’ve been… unconventional. “We have successfully fulfilled the five year plan for Nefarious Affairs in two years! Congratulations, team! Akopyan, bonus! Dondukov, bonus! Sidorov, bonus! Shumbasov, bonus! …Soldier, an abecedary.“)
I couldn’t read “через снегу орендовать”
at all, later assuming it must have been something in Khalkha Mongolian in Cyrillic script – since @secretlytodream mentioned the Hydra base is in Ulaanbaatar in the Russian cut of Civil War? (MCU Ulaanbaatar sadly did not look like “sophistication on the edge of the steppe“.) But
“через снегу орендовать”
seems like plain Google translate Russian.
And that doesn’t put me in a generous mood. MCU is just so careless with depicting the world.
Knowing that Bucky is supposed to be a polyglot of sorts makes me even sadder. I know, I know, it’s not real and everything, but really – they could have put in a bit more effort eh?
He unsuccessfully tries to teach him some other response, at least Slushayus’, tovarishch komandir.
All the while holding his cup of tea. That the soldier probably brought him back from one of the missions.
later assuming it must have been something in Khalkha Mongolian in Cyrillic script – since @secretlytodream mentioned the Hydra base is in Ulaanbaatar in the Russian cut of Civil War
I’m pretty sure they weren’t going to be that continuous as, let;s say, in Cap2 with Steve’s little notebook, when they created different lists of “Important Things” for different countries. Plus changing the country/city obviously was made long after post production, and mainly by the dear old motherland I think.
i don’t know why i am still devoting brain space to ca:cw when like… lbr. it ain’t gonna think that hard about me. but i think i’ve figured out another big thing that bothered me:
zemo doesn’t have a back-up plan.
and i get that like, zemo’s plan doesn’t truly end with tony killing bucky or steve killing tony, it ends with zemo killing himself. sure. you can argue that zemo doesn’t have a backup plan because his backup plan is actually just… dying. but think about that from the writer’s perspective. because for zemo not to need a backup plan– like, say, a set of alive hydra supersoldiers to kill the avengers just in case they choose friendship!– you need to know without a doubt that in the final act tony is going to try his damndest to murder bucky barnes with no hesitation. you need that to happen.
but thematically, that is fucking impossible! the entire movie is kickstarted by tony’s negative feelings about death. and i don’t mean his parents’ deaths: i mean that in his soul, in his whole being, tony stark is sick to fucking death of death! he is exhausted with death! he no longer trusts himself to make tough calls where killing and violence are concerned. he’s confronted by a grieving mother who says “you murdered him” and tony stands there and takes it, because while there’s a part of him that could say “no i didn’t!! i was trying to help! i didn’t want to kill anyone in sokovia!!” there’s another, bigger, deeply ashamed part of him that thinks….
“but i did it.” but i did it.
and this even comes after aou, in which he’s confronted by the twins because his weapons killed their parents. (like… how deep a fucking parallel could you want, writers!!!??) tony knows exactly what it’s like to bear shame and grief at things you did– or just allowed to happen– that you would never in a million years repeat, knowing what you know now. being who you are today. if you were in control, if you had a second chance, you’d never pull the trigger, you’d never design that rocket, you’d never let your guns get into the hands of warlords. tony knows what it’s like to want to scream “i never wanted anyone to die!!” and yet also knows how fucking empty that would sound to people who had lost everything, how sick you’d be inside at what you’d done, even unwittingly, even unwillingly. tony knows. he was a goddamn merchant of war. he could have said bucky’s line for him. “but i did it.”
but once that tape starts playing, there is no room anymore for tony’s heartsickness and shame and self-doubt, the exact feelings that defined his support for the accords… and that actually defined his position and parallels in the story! from the start of the movie tony is portrayed as someone whose self-image is actively destabilizing, in contrast to steve, who is regaining a sense of purpose and self to the point that he no longer needs the role of captain america to define his identity. and yet, for that fight to happen–the fight that had to go on all the burger king cups– tony is flatly 180′d into saying “fuck it, i suddenly know exactly who i am and what i’m here to do: i’m here to rip bucky barnes’s head off, even though i am really anxious and sick over being repeatedly called a killer and bearing so much responsibility for violence. let’s fuckin get to it!!!”