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A pretty horrible and creepy thing.

The page that Zemo reads from is supposed to contain the trigger words. But it also seems that there’s a drawing of an eye with instructions and explanations and the note on the bottom of the left page says “7 …(adjective, the kind of stitches I assume) stitches are situated relative to the center of the eye”. So imagine they had to operate on Bucky to ensure that those trigger words stick, among other horrible things. Now excuse me, I’m gonna go cry in the corner.

#I thought they were auditory triggers#not visual#not even a combination of both#but maybe it has to something to do with the electric chair of Suffering#because the head clamp only covers one eye–his left#I always thought that was odd#but since they used the Chair when implementing the trigger words#there could be a visual element as well (via brooklynnbros)

!!! that is actually a very scary addition to the theory. I was thinking about that head clamp plate thingy too, who knows what kinds of horrors Hydra was putting Bucky through :

On a related note, my theory was that Zemo’s imperfect pronunciation and
word mix-up (доброкачественный is not добросердечный) did not tap into
the cognitive-behavioral conditioning as successfully as an exact
emulation of Karpov’s routine would’ve. And maybe Karpov kept saying
ржавОй instead of ржАвый, in a socio-regional pronunciation variant, on
purpose, to develop a failsafe for 100% efficient long-term Winter
Soldier activation that no one else would be able to master.

If the stimulus is not just audio-channel based, but audio-visual (requiring, say, special lighting, or the handler standing in a specific place in Bucky’s range of vision), then it’s clear Zemo just did not read the instruction manual carefully before proceeding.

Bottom right page, with number 4, says something like связь… слов… стимулирование…глаза, probably something about the stimulation of the eye [retina] in conjunction with code words?

tbh I still think that доброкачественный vs добросердечный was a mistake on their part (like, why can’t you find actual Russian peeps to consult???), so I never read much into that particular bit. But it could be interesting if the word choice was intentional.
And maybe Karpov kept saying
ржавОй instead of ржАвый, in a socio-regional pronunciation variant, on
purpose, 

I’m not sure how people pronounce it in Siberia, but I think it’s the same? So, again, I think it’s just their mistake. I can’t see any of your suggestions under number 4 though?? I can only see семь матрасных швов (“seven matress stitches”) etc. But it’d be cool to, given the chance, ask the set designers or the Russos to clarify this bit.

now this is a goddamn catch O_O

wasn’t the prop master for Marvel studios sharing images or a video clip of the notebook on social media? I could have sworn I saw that.

is this it?? its from ‘Russell Bobbitt’ at ‘marvelprops’

@secretlytodream is this helpful??

First of all, thanks for bringing back ALL THE PAIN Q__Q

Yes, I saw that video, but it’s too low quality for me to see anything :C

i just love this, because i never actually considered why that part of the head thing went over his eye, and what it might be effecting.

like, ive spent so much time thinking about the arm and how that might be connected and anchored, but not what might have been done outside of just the electricity and saying the words while that’s effecting his brain. like… eye surgery??? thats some hardcore shit

And to make everything worse – It started all the way back in Azzano, because after Steve saved Bucky the first time, you could see some scratches around his left eye.

Now you’re welcome.